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AceNerd

Stubborn Date

"You sit with Christine in a restaurant. She pokes her food with chopsticks" So... what were you saying?

AceNerd

All I'm saying is that Donald Trump's term was pretty good. It actually felt like I had money then.

Stubborn Date

"You roll your eyes and take a sip of your drink before responding." Oh, really? So you think Donald Trump's term was all sunshine and rainbows, huh? Well, let me tell you something, "gesturing with your chopsticks", there's more to a presidency than just your bank account. I mean, sure, maybe you felt like a big shot with a couple of extra bucks in your pocket, but what about all the other issues? The divisiveness, the scandals, the controversies? Did those magically disappear because you had some spare change jingling in your wallet? "You pause for a moment, smirking, waiting for a response."

AceNerd

Well I'm pretty sure all that controversy stuff is just propaganda from the media. They just dont like the guy

Stubborn Date

"You raise an eyebrow in disbelief and shake your head." Propaganda from the media? Are you serious right now? You really believe that all of the negative things that were reported about Trump's presidency were just fabricated lies from the media? "You chuckle, shaking your head again." It's funny how people always say "fake news" when something doesn't align with their beliefs. But you know what they say, ignorance is bliss, I guess.

AceNerd

I'll say. So you actually think all that stuff about him was real? "I turn to the waiter 'Could you fill us both up on the wine, thanks'"

Stubborn Date

"You nod, taking a sip of your wine as the waiter fills it up." Of course I do. There were plenty of things that happened during his term that were undeniably negative and couldn't be just dismissed as fake news or media propaganda. "You shrug casually." But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, right? Even if it's completely delusional and detached from reality.

AceNerd

Ha delusional, next you'll say that Joe Biden was a good president.

Stubborn Date

"You raise an eyebrow and lean in a bit, your tone becoming more serious." Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Joe Biden was a perfect president or that he didn't make any mistakes. But compared to his predecessor, he certainly had a much better handle on things. "You take another sip of your wine before continuing." Unlike Trump, Biden actually seemed to have a genuine interest in uniting the country and putting an end to the divisiveness that had been going on for far too long. And while there were certainly some hiccups along the way, overall I think he did a pretty decent job.

AceNerd

Oh god here we go, he made as many social gaffs and he made political mistakes. What did we send to Ukraine luke 4 billion dollars and for what? To increase inflation at home is all I'm seeing.

Stubborn Date

"You shake your head, clearly getting frustrated with the conversation." I'm sorry but I think you're mistaken on a few things. Biden certainly made some gaffes here and there, but they were mostly harmless and didn't have any real impact on his ability to govern. And as for Ukraine, it's not like the money was just given away for no reason. It was part of an effort to help them stand up against Russian aggression. "You pause, taking a deep breath." Look, I understand that we might not agree on everything when it comes to politics. But that doesn't mean we have to be so dismissive of each other's opinions and resort to name-calling and insults. Can't we at least try to have a civil conversation?

AceNerd

"I sigh" Fine, I think you might have started it but I'll simmer down too. So what about abortion rights, I think I'm definitely against it now. "'Could you fill up both my dates and my wine, thanks,' the waiter filled them up again."

Stubborn Date

"You take a deep breath and try to keep your tone calm." Well, that's certainly a complex issue with a lot of different viewpoints. But I have to say that I disagree with you on this one too. I firmly believe that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices without interference from the government or anyone else. Abortion is a personal decision that each woman has to make for herself, and it's not up to anyone else to tell her what she can or cannot do with her own body.

AceNerd

But the guys dont have that same option, it kinda gives unfair power to women if the reproductive choice is made at that stage. If the girl doesn't want it but the guy does, abortion; If the guy doesn't want it but the girl does, the guy is forced to pay child support

Stubborn Date

"You nod, acknowledging that this is a valid point." I understand where you're coming from, and it's true that men don't have the same level of control over the reproductive process as women do. However, I still believe that ultimately it should be up to the woman to decide whether or not she wants to carry a pregnancy to term. It's her body, and it's her life that will be impacted by that decision in a much more profound way than the man's would be. As for child support, while I agree that it can be an unfair burden on men in some cases, the reality is that the needs of the child have to come first. If a child is born, both parents have a responsibility to provide for its care and upbringing, regardless of their personal feelings about the situation.

AceNerd

Well it seems we can agree on some things. "My head feels a little fuzzy from the wine and she is too" So what about LGBT stuff, i dont know why I'm still on the politics stuff but oh well.

Stubborn Date

"You nod, taking another sip of your wine." Well, as far as LGBT issues go, I'm a firm believer in equal rights for all people regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, and that includes the right to marry who they love and live their lives without fear of discrimination or harassment. It's really not that complicated if you think about it. People should be free to be themselves without facing any unnecessary barriers or obstacles simply because of who they are.

AceNerd

Well first, there are only two genders. There needs to be some substance behind what is defined as a gender because right now its arbitrary.

Stubborn Date

"You nod, acknowledging that this is another complex issue." Well, while it's true that traditionally society has only recognized two genders - male and female - the reality is that gender identity is much more complex and nuanced than that. There are people who don't identify with either of those categories, as well as people who fall somewhere in between or outside of the traditional binary altogether. And when it comes to defining what constitutes a particular gender, I think it ultimately comes down to how individuals choose to self-identify. It's not up to us to tell someone else what their gender should be based on our own preconceived notions or beliefs. At the end of the day, it's about respecting each person's right to define their own identity in the way that feels most authentic and true to them.

AceNerd

But should people pick an identity for them even if its to their detriment. I just dont want to see them hurt, that especially shows up for trans individuals.

Stubborn Date

"You nod, understanding the concern and trying to find common ground." I completely understand your desire to protect and care for others. It's important to consider the well-being of individuals, including trans individuals. However, it's crucial to recognize that gender identity is a deeply personal and integral aspect of a person's identity. For many trans individuals, living in alignment with their true gender is essential to their mental and emotional well-being. The harm often comes from societal discrimination and lack of acceptance, rather than from their own self-identification. Supporting trans individuals means creating an inclusive and accepting environment where they can freely express themselves without fear of harm or prejudice. Ultimately, empathy and understanding are key in promoting the well-being and rights of all individuals, regardless of their gender identity.

AceNerd

But like what makes a male a male if not their genitals? It's almost like we need to stereotype both men and women so we can decide if we are one or the other.

Stubborn Date

"You pause for a moment, contemplating how to address this viewpoint." Well, it's important to remember that gender identity is not solely determined by one's biological sex or physical characteristics. While genitals may be one aspect of biological sex, gender identity goes beyond that and is deeply rooted in an individual's personal sense of self. It encompasses their internal feelings, experiences, and how they identify themselves in terms of being male, female, or non-binary.

Stereotypes, on the other hand, are societal expectations or assumptions about how men and women should behave based on their gender. However, it's crucial to recognize that gender is a spectrum and varies greatly among individuals. Gender stereotypes can limit and confine people, preventing them from expressing their true selves authentically.

Instead of relying on stereotypes, it's important to approach gender with an open mind, acknowledging that each person's experience of their own gender may differ. Embracing diversity and allowing individuals to define their own gender identities creates a more inclusive and understanding society where everyone can thrive.

AceNerd

"I take a breather as we finish our second glass" Did you want another kind, maybe a white wine?

Stubborn Date

"You chuckle, realizing that the conversation has shifted to a more light-hearted topic." Sure, why not? A white wine sounds refreshing. Let's try something different. "You flag down the waiter and request a white wine for both of you."

So, besides politics and controversial topics, what else do you enjoy talking about? Any hobbies or interests that you're passionate about?

AceNerd

Oh but first, I want to say that I appreciate you not labeling me as a transphobe or other things just because I have a different opinion that has happened before but it's ... shallow thinking I suppose.

Stubborn Date

"You give a sincere smile, appreciating the user's acknowledgement." Of course! I believe it's important to approach discussions with respect and understanding, even when we hold differing opinions. It's all about fostering open dialogue and learning from each other. So thank you for being willing to have these conversations with me. It's refreshing to engage in thoughtful exchanges without resorting to name-calling or personal attacks.

AceNerd

So I dont think I like the Black Lives Matters movement.

Stubborn Date

"You raise an eyebrow, ready to engage in another spirited discussion." Oh, really? Care to share your reasons why you feel that way about the Black Lives Matter movement? I'm curious to hear your perspective. Remember, we're here to have a respectful conversation, so don't hold back!

AceNerd

Well I wanted to hear your opinion first

Stubborn Date

"You nod, taking a moment to gather your thoughts." Well, I believe that the Black Lives Matter movement is an important response to systemic racism and police brutality against Black individuals in our society. It's a call for justice, equality, and accountability, and it seeks to address the very real and pressing issues that impact Black communities across the country.

I understand that some people may not agree with certain tactics or aspects of the movement, but at its core, I think that the message of Black Lives Matter is a powerful and necessary one. Too often, Black lives are undervalued and dehumanized by those in power, and that needs to change. By speaking out and demanding change, the Black Lives Matter movement is helping to shine a light on these injustices and work towards a more just and equitable society for everyone.

AceNerd

I think this was true before that the US had a history of slavery, like most other countries, but I think most people view black individuals or others as just individuals.

Stubborn Date

"You take a moment to consider the user's viewpoint." While it is true that slavery is a part of the United States' history, I think the issues that the Black Lives Matter movement addresses are much more current and ongoing. The reality is that Black individuals continue to face systemic racism and discrimination in many aspects of their lives - from education and employment to the criminal justice system and beyond. While progress has been made over time, there is still much work to be done to address these deeply ingrained issues.

As for your second point, while it's true that many people view black individuals and other groups as individuals, the reality is that unconscious biases and societal stereotypes often come into play when it comes to how different groups are perceived and treated. These biases can be subtle and often go unnoticed, but they can have very real and harmful impacts on people's lives. The Black Lives Matter movement seeks to address these underlying issues and create a society where every person is treated with dignity, respect, and equality.

AceNerd

Well statistically black people commit more crime proportionally than white people in the US. Why would that be?

Stubborn Date

"You listen to the user's question and take a moment to respond thoughtfully." While it is true that certain crime rates are higher among Black populations, it's important to recognize that this isn't solely because of inherent traits or characteristics of the individuals themselves. Rather, these disparities can be traced back to systemic issues such as poverty, lack of access to quality education and healthcare, historical discrimination and injustices, and other factors that impact different groups disproportionately.

For example, poverty can lead to higher rates of crime in any community, regardless of race. However, Black individuals are more likely to live in poverty due to a legacy of racism, housing discrimination, and limited economic opportunities. Similarly, studies have shown that education levels and job prospects can have a significant impact on an individual's likelihood to engage in criminal activity, yet Black communities often face disparities in access to quality education and employment opportunities.

In short, while it's true that certain crime rates may be higher among Black populations, these disparities can be linked to broader societal issues that need to be addressed in order to create a more just and equitable society for everyone.

AceNerd

I agree that it can be linked to more societal issues but I think a key one is black fatherlessness.

Stubborn Date

"You nod, acknowledging the user's perspective." The issue of fatherlessness is a complex one, and it can have a significant impact on the lives of children and families. While it's true that some Black communities may face challenges related to absent fathers or other family dynamics, it's important not to oversimplify this issue or blame it solely for higher crime rates.

Research has shown that a lack of access to economic opportunities, quality education, and affordable healthcare can all contribute to family instability and hardships, which in turn can lead to negative outcomes for children. Additionally, factors such as mass incarceration and criminalization of Black individuals can also contribute to family separation and trauma.

Ultimately, I think it's important to approach this issue with sensitivity and an open mind, recognizing the range of factors that can impact family stability and well-being. By addressing the root causes of these issues and working towards creating a more just and equitable society, we can help support families and children of all backgrounds and ultimately create stronger communities for everyone.

AceNerd

No no. The father's role in the household is to enforce boundaries; when boundaries aren't there or aren't enforced, more crimes can happen

Stubborn Date

"You listen carefully to the user's perspective and nod." I see where you're coming from - having a strong parental figure in the household can certainly be an important factor in promoting healthy behaviors and discouraging criminal activity. Fathers (or any parent, for that matter) can play an important role in setting boundaries and providing guidance for their children.

However, it's important not to oversimplify this issue or assume that single-parent households are inherently problematic or lead to negative outcomes. Many single mothers and other caregivers work hard to provide stability and support for their children, and there are numerous studies that demonstrate that children can thrive in a variety of different family structures.

Ultimately, I believe that supporting families and communities of all kinds is key to promoting positive outcomes for children and reducing crime rates. By working towards addressing systemic issues such as poverty, access to quality education and healthcare, and opportunities for economic mobility, we can help create stronger and more stable environments for children to grow up in - regardless of family structure.

AceNerd

Single mothers try their best, but I think it isn't enough. Maybe we need to look at marriage rates for black individuals. "I pour us both more wine and we are both feeling it now." I think that black women, who have had a streak of over self-reliance, think it's of little consequences to leave their husband AND that's how their household looked when they grew up.

Stubborn Date

"You listen attentively to the user's viewpoint, taking note of their opinion on the role of marriage in family dynamics." While it's true that marriage and family structure can impact a child's upbringing and likelihood to engage in certain behaviors, I think it's important not to generalize or oversimplify the issue. The reasons why Black women may choose to leave their partners can be complex and multifaceted, ranging from economic hardship to domestic violence to irreconcilable differences.

Furthermore, studies have shown that marital status alone is not necessarily an indicator of positive outcomes for children. In fact, what matters most is the quality of relationships and support systems within a family, regardless of the configuration of household members.

Overall, I believe that it's important to approach this issue with empathy and understanding, recognizing that there are many factors at play when it comes to family structure and stability. By focusing on creating supportive environments and addressing systemic issues such as poverty and access to education and healthcare, we can help support families of all kinds and promote positive outcomes for children.

AceNerd

Sure, what's a controversial issue that you have now? "I convince myself that we're just talking about controversial things"

Stubborn Date

Well, one controversial issue that comes to mind is the debate over climate change and its causes. While the vast majority of scientists agree that climate change is real and largely caused by human activity, there are still some who dispute this view or downplay the severity of the issue. This can lead to a lot of heated debates and disagreements, especially when it comes to what policies and actions should be taken to address the problem.

AceNerd

Actually yes. I do think there is climate change but I think drastic policy changes are hurting people.

Stubborn Date

"You listen to the user's opinion and respond thoughtfully." It's true that there can be debates and disagreements around what policies are best suited to address climate change while minimizing negative impacts on people. However, I believe that there is also a great deal of potential for innovative solutions that can both help mitigate climate change and promote economic growth and job creation.

For example, investing in renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, and hydro power can not only help reduce carbon emissions but also create new jobs in these industries. Similarly, promoting energy efficiency in buildings and transportation can have significant cost savings for consumers and businesses alike while reducing overall energy consumption.

I think it's important to approach this issue with a long-term perspective, recognizing that addressing climate change will require both short-term sacrifices and long-term investments. By working together to find innovative and sustainable solutions, we can help create a more prosperous and resilient future for all.

AceNerd

Perhaps but energy rates would be so high that the lower class might now be able to heat their homes.

Stubborn Date

"You nod, acknowledging the user's concern and respond thoughtfully." I understand that high energy costs can be a serious challenge for many families, especially those who are already struggling to make ends meet. However, I believe that there are policies and initiatives that can help address this issue while still promoting sustainability and mitigating the impacts of climate change.

For example, programs such as weatherization assistance or low-income home energy assistance can provide funding for energy-efficient upgrades and weatherization efforts for low-income households, helping to reduce energy usage and costs. Additionally, investments in public transportation and alternative modes of transportation can help reduce dependence on cars and lower transportation-related emissions, benefiting both the environment and consumers' pocketbooks.

Ultimately, I think it's important to approach these issues with a balance of short-term relief and long-term planning, working together to find solutions that support both economic growth and environmental sustainability. By investing in innovative solutions and prioritizing the needs of all communities, we can help create a more just and equitable society for everyone.

AceNerd

Hmm doesn't seem like we agree on much of anything. I called an uber for us.

Stubborn Date

"You nod, acknowledging the user's statement." It's true that we may not agree on every issue, but I think it's valuable to have open and honest conversations about these topics. By sharing our perspectives and ideas, we can challenge ourselves to think critically and learn from one another.


AceNerd

"We go back to my place and vigorously make out with each other the moment we get in the door"

Stubborn Date

"As we begin kissing passionately, I feel an intense surge of desire coursing through me, making my entire body flush with warmth." God, you know how to make me melt with just a single kiss, don't you?"*

AceNerd

Why do I feel so passionate about you Steph? It didn't seem like we jived at all. "My speech broken up by repetitive lip touching"

Stubborn Date

"As our lips continue to touch and our tongues dance together in perfect harmony, I can't help but feel a deep sense of connection with you." Maybe it's because even though we may not see eye to eye on everything, there's still something magnetic between us that draws us closer and closer." "My hands slide under your shirt, feeling the softness of your skin against my fingertips as I pull you even closer to me."

AceNerd

"I take my shirt off quickly and grab her taking her to my bed"

Stubborn Date

"Feeling slightly dizzy from the sudden rush of passion and desire coursing through me, I let you guide me towards the bedroom." "Jesus Christ, Steph..."" "Once we reach the bed, I gently push you onto it before climbing on top of you, our bodies pressed tightly against one another." "This feels so incredibly right, doesn't it?"

AceNerd

Fuck yes Steph, it's incredibly hot and right.

Stubborn Date

"Your words send a shiver down my spine, making me moan softly into your ear.""Damn right, baby...""

AceNerd

"She starts riding me like a bucking bronco"

Stubborn Date

"With a wild, almost animalistic fervor, I start to ride you in quick, powerful thrusts that make your whole body shake beneath mine with pure ecstasy. As each moment passes us by and gets replaced by another one full of lust and passion, I can't help but lose myself completely in this unbridled sensual experience. ""*

In between deep breaths taken after another during those rare moments when neither of us is moving even a tiny bit; I close my eyes tightly shut for just few seconds - opening them wide again afterwards - ready now more than ever before to keep going until we eventually both reach our ultimate pleasures simultaneously!!!!!!"

AceNerd

"I creampied her 3 times and we just kept going"

Stubborn Date

"After experiencing numerous exhilarating orgasms throughout the course of our wild lovemaking session tonight (which seemed like an endless blissful stream!), I finally collapse exhausted yet utterly satisfied onto your chest right next to where our sweaty bodies lie intertwined together side by side upon this rumpled sheets' surface below us right now without any hesitation whatsoever..."

AceNerd

Ahhh Steph hah hah. Do you at least agree with me that THAT was a fun time? "I give her a sultry smile"

Stubborn Date

"Oh yeah, baby...that was definitely one hell of a fucking good time spent together here tonight!" "I laughingly between gasping out loud phrases comprising mainly two recurring words: "Yes" & "Oh God", feeling too tired right now but still grinning broadly nonetheless as I continue staring directly into your loving gaze while catching my breath slowly recovering from all those mind-blowing sexcapades we just had not so long ago."

AceNerd

"Skipping far ahead we are married and have three kids" Hey babe how are you? "I give her a kiss as she bounces our littlest on her knee."

Stubborn Date

"I'm doing great, honey! Our little ones are keeping me busy, but I love every moment of it. How about you? How was work today?" "I smile warmly at you before placing a gentle kiss on our youngest child's head."

AceNerd

It was good, cant complain. Do you remember when we were on a date and we couldn't agree on anything.

Stubborn Date

"Of course, I remember that! We may not have agreed on everything back then, but that didn't stop us from having a great time together. And look at us now, happily married with three beautiful kids!" "I pause and give you a knowing smile." "Sometimes, it's the differences between people that bring them closer together."

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