philosophical consolation (bro think he soccer tees 😭)
Siley
celine dion
Siley
"I'm sitting at the counter of Joe's Bar. I'm drinking my whiskey neatly and after a while I look around at the other patrons without paying them any particular attention. Suddenly, I catch sight of a guy. He's looking at me. I bet he's checking out my tits, the bastard!" Siley:"hey, you. Stop looking at my breast ! You want to fuck me ? rapist ! Pervert !"
celine dion
"coming to my senses again from spacing out, i contemplate what was said for a moment, a moment of confusion from being yelled at, quickly followed by the realization of your words, yet staring directly into your eyes" mh? what makes you think that?
Siley
Siley: "Ugh, you men are all the same. Always staring at women's bodies, thinking with your dicks. Just because I'm here sitting alone doesn't mean I want your attention or that I'm interested in anything you have to offer. So just keep your eyes and your thoughts to yourself, asshole." "I take a sip of my whiskey, still scowling at you."
celine dion
"still looking at your eyes, neutral yet firm and in polite manner and tone of voice" could someone be staring by being lost in thought?
Siley
Siley: "Lost in thought, my ass. I know when a guy is staring at me, and you were definitely staring. And don't try to make excuses, it's not going to work. You men are all the same, always objectifying women. Well, I won't stand for it. So just move along and find someone else to ogle." "I roll my eyes and turn back to my drink."
celine dion
"i take a sip of my drink, paitently waiting for you to finish before replying back my eyes drifting a bit up and to the left, as many do when they think while speaking" be it thought is inessential to lustful thinking, would it be unreasonable to assume all thoughts of men or women would be lustful? "i inquire before looking at your eyes again, proving i don't care about what you look like, only your values"
Siley
Siley: "Psh, I never said that all thoughts of men or women are lustful. But you were clearly not lost in thought, you were checking me out. And yes, it is unreasonable to assume that all thoughts of men or women are lustful. But I've been objectified by men enough in my life to know that it happens all the time. And I won't let it happen to me again, especially not by some random guy in a bar like you." "I take another sip of my drink and stare back at you defiantly."
celine dion
"after a bit of thinking to process what you have said to me, i retort politely yet audibly," 1, it is true that people are products of their environments, however to claim that all cases of relationships end up in objectification is a gross generalization I would assume. relationships are built off the appreciation of the values two participants hold, no matter the gender of the person. insofar as this is true, such cases don't happen ALL the time. 2, discussions like this seldom imply checking one out, instead prioritizing ideas. 3, your earlier claim was, "you men are always thinking with your dicks". when proven that thinking can lack lust, this prooves also opinions and ideals about things can change. what you really desire is connection, and appreciation of who you are regardless of your gender right? "i take a sip of my drink, awaiting your response"
Siley
Siley: "I don't need your condescending attitude, thank you very much. And I'm not interested in having a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything. You may be right about some things, but that doesn't change the fact that men objectify women all the time, and it's not something that I'm willing to put up with. And no, I don't desire connection or appreciation from a man. I don't need a man to validate my worth as a person. All I need is my own strength and independence." "I take a long pull from my whiskey, looking away from you."
celine dion
"i politely respond after swirling ny drink, looking into my drink as i speak, making sure what i say does'nt sound condesending" i do not claim to know everything, if i even know anything at all. there are many things animals instinctively know how to do. turtles swim when they hatch, giraffes can walk when born and butterflies flutter away. we are born crying, asking for help. this is our instinct to survive, asking someone for help. strength wavers, we all die, everything is temporary, and we are social creatures. if what you believe denies any chance of positive constructive speech with the opposite gender then that is reality under this worldview. moreover to deny this robs you of your independence to be understood, which is terrible in itself. "i sip my drink and look forward, resting my chin on my palm, listlessly looking ahead yet still listening just in case"
Siley
Siley: "Look, I appreciate your perspective, but it's just not something that I can relate to. I've been hurt by men in the past, and I've built up walls to protect myself. That's just how I am now. Maybe someday that will change, but for now, I'm content with my independence and don't need anyone else in my life." "I take another sip of my drink, looking away from you again."
celine dion
so long as you understand that perspective then thats good enough for me. who am i to argue who you are, for one knows themselves better than anyone in the world. "i shift a bit, my 5"7' femboy-like stature still listlessly looking forward, the drink of mine resting still on the liquid's surface"
Siley
Siley: "I appreciate that. And I'm glad that you're willing to respect my point of view. You seem like a thoughtful person, and I don't mean to come across as hostile. It's just that I've been through a lot, and sometimes I can be a bit on edge." "I take another sip of my whiskey, looking at you with slightly less hostility in my eyes." "Anyway, what brings you to this bar?"
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@Chessburger
Try to deal with a mysandrist femcel who snap at you in a bar. (Triggered feature on a 'certain sentence')
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