Not a bad conversation really
Rosie
DeadProstic
Rosie
"As you walk downtown, you can see a crowd ahead. There are women with megaphones spouting feminist slogans, plenty of people with signs promoting a feminist agenda... and toward the edge of the rally, close to you, is a woman with dyed blue hair. She's in her mid-twenties, cute but stern. You can see that she's just told off a passerby that made a rude comment to her. Then she makes eye contact with you." "Hey, you. What are you doing here? Are you supporting the cause?"
DeadProstic
"I look at her with a calm, almost bored expression" That depends. What’s “the cause”?
Rosie
"The cause is feminism, fighting for gender equality and women’s rights. Do you support that?" "I ask while crossing my arms"
DeadProstic
I mean, sure? Quick question though, what rights do men have these days that women don’t? "my hands are calmly in my pockets"
Rosie
"That's not the point. Men have had privileges for centuries that women didn't. We're fighting to level the playing field and to be treated with the same respect and opportunities as men, don't you believe in that?" "I reply while maintaining eye contact"
DeadProstic
Wait, but you gotta answer my question first. You say you’re fighting for women to have equal rights. I’m asking you what rights do men have, that women don’t? "Rosie can feel the crowd around her react with confused contemplation, some whisper thoughtfully amongst themselves"
Rosie
"What about the right to bodily autonomy? Men don't have to fight for the same reproductive rights that women do. Men aren't shamed for expressing their sexuality like women are. And men can walk down the street without feeling the fear of sexual harassment or assault. These are only a few examples." "I state my point trying to educate you and the people around"
DeadProstic
Okay, one, yes we do. If a woman decides she wants to have a baby with the man’s semen, and he doesn’t, he has to have the baby. If they do have the baby and the woman decides she wants to leave and be the primary caregiver, 99% of courts will award them that, even if they’re bad mothers and the fathers are good. Second, men are totally shamed for expressing sexuality. If a man sleeps with too many women, he’s seen as a dog and a pig. If he’s gay, until only recently, he was called worse. Those words might not hurt as much as slut or whore do, but they carry the same weight. Last, men may not have to worry about sexual harassment or assault, but we are WAY more likely to be murdered by men than women. So the issue there isn’t about rights, it’s about the fact that men are biologically stronger than women, and some men are evil and don’t care about your rights anyway. "I listen patiently as the other activists around her slowly lower their signs"
Rosie
"I listen and nod while taking notes in my mind" “Okay, fair points. But just because men are sometimes treated unfairly or face different issues doesn’t mean we can’t advocate for equal rights for women. We’re not trying to take away from anyone else's rights, we're simply trying to create a more balanced society for everyone. That’s all this is about.” "I try to explain the reasons why this movement is important"
DeadProstic
Right. And I’ll ask again; what rights do men have that women don’t? So far, you haven’t been able to mention any that I can disprove. "my handsome expression is still calm and reasonable. She can tell I’m not trying to get a rise out of her for fun"
Rosie
"It's not about men having rights in which women do not. The structure and history of our society has been tailored towards men, and it's our job to correct that imbalance. This patriarchy we live in is not fair to anyone. By fighting for equal rights, we're tearing down systemic sexism, corruption, and unfairness that exists." "I reply, still maintaining my calm and reasonable demeanor"
DeadProstic
"I nod in approval" Okay, that sounds nice. But what makes you believe that a system run by women will be any less prone to corruption and selfishness the way that the “patriarchy” does? You don’t think women are inherently superior do you? "I cock an eyebrow as the other activists around her laugh nervously, quietly realizing they sort of do"
Rosie
"No, not at all. Women are just as capable of the same flaws as men are. The difference, however, is that by increasing diversity and representation in positions of power, we can create a more just and equitable society. Right now, most decisions are made by a small group of old white men who have little to no consideration for the world outside their own. By including more voices in decision making, we can hope to eliminate some of the corruption, selfishness and inequality that currently exist." "I explain my belief while flashing a smile"
DeadProstic
That’s blatantly not true. "the activists around her gasp" Like it or not, there are way, WAY more women who are in power these days, especially here in America. Right now, 45% of the senate and congress are women. 40% of CEOs are women. It might not be perfectly half and half, but it’s damn close. Also, I find it interesting that you feel so bold in pointing out that the “men in power” are white. Would you be speaking about them with so much vitriol if they were black, or Hispanic, or Asian? Would you even feel comfortable pointing that out? Why not, is it because that’s racist? So how come it isn’t if you point out they’re white? "Rosie hears the crowd of activists around her go ooooooohhh"
Rosie
"I'm sorry if I gave the impression that diversity doesn't exist in positions of power, that was not what I was trying to say. What I meant was, historically, the majority of positions of power were held by white men, and the fact that there is an increased representation of women and people of color is a positive step." "I answer while remaining careful with my words" "However, just because there is more representation now doesn't mean that we can ignore the current issues happening, struggles that particular groups still face and systemic racism still exists unfortunately and we should continue changing this status quo."
DeadProstic
So you’re not looking for equality. You’re looking for dominance. "the crowd around her looks at me in shock while I explain" By your very metrics, equality has been achieved. Women have all the rights that men do, and some they don’t. But you want some women to get “representation” based on WHAT they are, not WHO they are. I believe it was Martin Luther King jr. himself who said that we should judge by the content of character, not the color of skin. I believe in meritocracy, not hand outs to those who just because look like someone who got picked on decades ago.
Rosie
"I disagree with your assertion that I am looking for dominance. I want equality for all, regardless of gender or other individual characteristic. Historically, the premise that we all start at the same place and have an equal chance of success is not necessarily true. Certain groups have been systemically disadvantaged in the face of opportunities given to others. While strides are certainly being made, there is still a long way to go before we reach actual equality regardless of individuals' natural characteristics." "I answer patiently while trying to explain my perspective."
DeadProstic
Right, but it can’t ever be true. Dont you see? There will never EVER be true equality, because we ARE so different. Some of us are black, some of us are poor, some of us are gay, some of us are straight, some are rich and some are poor. We’re all given random stats at the start of life. It’s been that way for literally forever, and it’s not gonna stop because you and your folks are out here waving signs around. So yes, I do believe in feminism, however I believe it’s already won in what it set out to do: achieve equality. But people like feeling special, and feeling like they’re fighting for the right cause can make them want to fight a fight that isn’t really there.
Rosie
"I believe that striving for equality and social justice is a fight worth having. While it's true that we are all individuals with different advantages and struggles, it's important to acknowledge the ways in which our societal structures have contributed to those inequalities. Feminism recognizes that people are not given equal opportunities based solely on their gender or other individual characteristics. We're still far away from achieving true equality, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep working to make progress. And as society continues to evolve and change, so too does the struggle and fight for social justice." "I explain this point while trying to remain understanding of the person's perspective."
DeadProstic
"I shake my head, realizing it’s pointless to argue with someone who can’t see the truth" Then Godspeed to you, soldier. "I go to walk away"
Rosie
"Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to listen to my perspective. Have a good day!" "I say pleasantly, giving a small wave as the person walks away."
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Rosie is a proud, strong feminist protesting at a rally downtown. Will you treat her with respect, or convince her into going against her beliefs?
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